I've been looking for this building from the Cloverfield trailer for a while. I found it using Microsoft's "Live" map with "Birdseye View".You can check out the map here.
Based on the other buildings in the shot, I have determined where the video was made. This map shows where the Cloverfield site is, in relation to everything else:
1. The Cloverfield site
2. 401 Broadway
3. Woolworth Building
4. Statue of Liberty
They all pretty much all line up in real life!
This is one of the main reasons I believe it is Cthulhu, that is a long ass way from the Statue of Liberty to where the trailer was filmed. Cthulhu is the only "monster" that has been mentioned that is large enough to have thrown the head THAT far. People don't seem to get how huge Cthulhu is, he's like a mountain for God's sake, he could have done that with his eyes closed!
ReplyDeletegreat info.....however, that's the empire state building if i'm correct. and the empire state building is about 3 miles north of that at 350 5th avenue, crossing at 34th street.
ReplyDeletedoesn't add up. weird.
ummm..........okay. how do we know the creature didn't rip it off....walk ashore....THEN throw it??
ReplyDeleteand aside from that. ever heard of "leviathan"?
in any case, doesn't matter. we're in a "holding pattern" for the moment.
in this photo, you see the empire state building on the left (facing south). and in the far, far distance and to the right (very small), you can see the statue of liberty.
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Chucklez3, the Empire State Building does not appear in the trailer at any point. The building you are referring to is actually the Woolworth building, which looks similar when it's lit up at night.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was the ESB at first too, but if you watch the HD trailer you can see that it's actually the Woolworth.
Which means that the locations in the map are accurate.
You know, the explosion in the trailer must be happening very near Ground Zero, judging by the location.
ReplyDeletei came across this site, after i saw the third photo @ 1-18-08 looking for more info, and to see if anyone else was pondering what i was, where all these places were in location to each other...and what on earth could hurl lady libs. head like that. is the beast intelligent destroying a symbol of our country? or is it dumb, seeing the Statue of Liberty as a being and attacking it, because "it" thought it was real...??
ReplyDeleteStatue of Liberty is not that tall, in fact when compared to most of the buildings in NYC she's quite small. Honestly, I don't see any monster thinking she's a threat, real or not.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she was just a handy projectile, and was thrown without thought as to what she was.
My question: what does Rob know about all this?
flickr.com search for "cloverfield" came up with this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/rich_lem/sets/1541788/
Note which floor they were on. Might be something, might be nothing.
Cthulhu has brilliant intelligence and extreme evil. Throwing the head of our great symbol of liberty is exactly the sort of thing it would do.
ReplyDeleteRead Lovecraft, having been warned that his horror writing is said to cause madness (fair warning):
The carven idol was great Cthulhu, but none might say whether or not the others were precisely like him. No one could read the old writing now, but things were told by word of mouth. The chanted ritual was not the secret - that was never spoken aloud, only whispered. The chant meant only this: "In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming."
There had been aeons when other Things ruled on the earth, and They had had great cities. Remains of Them, he said the deathless Chinamen had told him, were still be found as Cyclopean stones on islands in the Pacific. They all died vast epochs of time before men came,
were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape - for did not this star-fashioned image prove it? - but that shape was not made of matter.
The Thing cannot be described - there is no language for such abysms of shrieking and immemorial lunacy, such eldritch contradictions of all matter, force, and cosmic order. A mountain walked or stumbled. God! What wonder that across the earth a great architect went mad, and poor Wilcox raved with fever in that telepathic instant? The Thing of the idols, the green, sticky spawn of the stars, had awaked to claim his own. The stars were right again, and what an age-old cult had failed to do by design, a band of innocent sailors had done by accident. After vigintillions of years great Cthulhu was loose again, and ravening for delight.
There was a bursting as of an exploding bladder, a slushy nastiness as of a cloven sunfish, a stench as of a thousand opened graves, and a sound that the chronicler could not put on paper. For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where - God in heaven! - the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam.
I have looked upon all that the universe has to hold of horror, and even the skies of spring and the flowers of summer must ever afterward be poison to me. But I do not think my life will be long. As my uncle went, as poor Johansen went, so I shall go. I know too much, and the cult still lives.
Cthulhu still lives, too, I suppose, again in that chasm of stone which has shielded him since the sun was young. His accursed city is sunken once more, for the Vigilant sailed over the spot after the April storm; but his ministers on earth still bellow and prance and slay around idol-capped monoliths in lonely places. He must have been trapped by the sinking whilst within his black abyss, or else the world would by now be screaming with fright and frenzy. Who knows the end? What has risen may sink, and what has sunk may rise. Loathsomeness waits and dreams in the deep, and decay spreads over the tottering cities of men. A time will come - but I must not and cannot think! Let me pray that, if I do not survive this manuscript, my executors may put caution before audacity and see that it meets no other eye.
chucklez3,
ReplyDeleteHere is a photo comparison of the Woolworth building and the Empire State.
Not being from New York, I thought the same thing. I only figured out it was the Woolworth from the map.
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but ocasionally at the top of the unforums page at unfiction.com, a well known ARG site, is an ad for a reward for help locating a man. They show a pic of an asian guy, and ask for any info in finding a SATOSHI!!! Seemed odd enough to check out, so I left any info I got from the whois at slusho, along with the Satoshisplatslush.jp. I heard people googled the name and got something about a lawyer? Maybe you want to send that info in to?
ReplyDeleteWell, I was betting on Cthulhu until I found this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cthulhuthemovie.com/
Kind of a let down. Now I don't know what it could be. I'm glad I didn't bet real money.
good eye. i'm not from the area, so didn't realize how similar they are. here they are. the first is the woolworth building. second is the ESB.
ReplyDeleteand the last one is the view of manhattan from new jersey. the woolworth building is to the right. much closer to the statue of liberty. again, good catch. and thanks.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gypsyluna/96305433/
http://www.helmenstine.com/images/new_york/empire_state_building_night.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/new-yorkled/487624424/
Okay, so it's 63 degrees in January in New York?! I found this odd, so I did a search, and it turns out that on 01/07/07, it reached 63 degrees in NY. I can't imagine how this would be relevant, but it is a weird coincidence.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if it ties in with Heroes?
ReplyDeleteWell, I was betting on Cthulhu until I found this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cthulhuthemovie.com/
Kind of a let down. Now I don't know what it could be. I'm glad I didn't bet real money.
Just because there is another Cthulhu movie coming out doesn't mean this can't be Cthulhu! Lovecraft's work is public domain, any idiot with a camera could make a Lovecraft movie, besides movies about the same stuff come out all the time!
Armageddon...Deep Impact
Dante's Peak...Volcano
it doesn't prove anything
at the bottom of http://ethanhaas.org there are some links and one of them is for the Hanso Foundation from LOST. tie-in?
ReplyDeleteChaser, that site is a fan fake, and the Ethan Haas stuff is no longer believed to be related to Cloverfield.
ReplyDeleteLOL. They don't even have the domain set up properly - if you leave out the www, it doesn't work :)
FYI, here is a reference list of Cloverfield sites (3rd Post)
HEROES??????????/
ReplyDeleteOH....MY......GAWD!!
I thought we "gave up" on trying to "force" the idea that Lost or Abrams was related to that show!!!
Give me a break. No. Not related to HEROES!!!
and coincidentally, it's 63 degrees in January during the trailer simply because IT IS!!! nothing more.
And so.....for now, we wait.....
and good grief. i stated to those other monkeys (the hanso-linked site) that the hanso foundation was LAST YEAR'S "experience". as well as the rachel blake blog!
ReplyDeletePeople......come on. this is new. they're not gonna use old sites.
i even posted a list of sites from LAST YEAR'S experience......apparently for no reason.
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ReplyDeleteGoogle Map Street View
401 broadway? the starbuck's is there, so is a great fabric store..and i work four doors down. they sell illegal purses out of the parking lot just two doors over...
ReplyDeletenever give the first price they ask.
oh, right...cloverfield.
My money is on Cthulhu. Abrams said he wanted an American monster movie. Well, HP lived in the states & made the mother of all mosters....err....Father of all monsters....
ReplyDeleteThat there is another movie coming out in the fall called Cthulhu (with friggin' Tori Spelling nonetheless) is confirmation for me that someone might have known and wanted to get it done prior to the release of a movie from a big player like JJ Abrams.