I have sent you an e-mail with a face-comparison picture I made with the photo of the two women on 1-18-08.com and a screenshot I took from the HD trailer.
at the slusho site, in the history, why is it if you click on the horse and the fish at the bottom, they're "thinking" of an oven-mit and swiss cheese?????
I'm looking at the Movie Trailers section of iTunes right now and under the 1-18-08 Trailer it lists Dennis Quaid, Matthew Fox, Forest Whitaker, Sigourney Weaver, and William Hurt. The same people are listed for the movie "Vantage Point" right next to it, so I'm sure it must be an iError.
This has been discussed in many places and the general consensus is he says "it's alive" simply because "it's a lion" sounds crap and would imply that the movie is going to have a huge CG lion romping over New York, which isn't really JJ Abram's style.
A lot of the "it's a lion" stuff comes from the fact that somebody asks a mere 20 seconds before "what sort of animal makes a sound like that" (or words to that effect).
I will concede however that the more people say "it's a lion" the more the trailer sounds that way, but as soon as people say "it's alive" that's how the trailer sounds i.e. it's all a bit subjective atm.
The Lion does fit in with the Book of Revelations End of the World theory however.
Has anyone thought that maybe it wont ever be revealed?? You realize that JJ still hasn't told us what the monster on the island really is.. its just a cloud of smoke/nanobots/magnetics covering something...
Don't you get he just likes to throw us for loops to make money and we buy into it time and time again.
Oh well sadly i'm just like the rest of you and want to know just as badly what it is and what this movie is about.
I'm just going to keep my hopes low after the lost experience last year went so badly half way through.
If this is taking place on 1-18-08... has there been some global warming.. i seriously doubt it will be 63 degrees outside at midnight in NY then... Check the TV report
I know Chuck, I meant for looking closely at all the small fuzzy details of the larger images to find more clues. :o)
When I lived in Poughkeepsie, NY, we often got a couple warm spells per winter. Some Januarys got unusually warm, and everyone was calling it a normal 'January Thaw', whatever that means. They didn't last of course once Feb came around, but they were freakishly warm, it could happen. Not to say that something weird is not going on in the movie tho, of course.
I want to apologize for all my postings, I hadn't quite read up and watched the whole trailer a couple of times yet, it does seem to be alot of hidden things and especially alot of hidden numbers that I am sure will fall into place later or will just lead us into alot of confusion.
I do have one thing to say is that everyone should think about the fact of the reoccuring monster theme between lost and this.. and how similar the noises are. JJ may have had some ideas from when he made lost that turned into this and could be derived back to our original speculations from lost.
But I know what you mean Ximfinity, this may not really turn out to be an ARG after all, just some clues to keep interest in the movie up till January.
I think that Abrams respects his fans, and it also seemed like the foul-ups with TLE at the end were due to ABC's lack of cooperation and impatience with perhaps not enough ROI from the game in their bottom-line-eyes.
I wouldn't be bothered by the temperature in the faux NYC in the trailer. Here is a quote from the January 6, 2007 issue of the New York Times.
"Yesterday, with parts of the nation shivering and the Rockies and the Midwest pummeled by another snowstorm, the record for the latest appearance of snow in New York City was broken with little fanfare.
For now, not even a flurry is in the immediate forecast. Indeed, today the temperature might reach 71 degrees, which would be another record. According to the National Weather Service, it will not even come close to freezing until Tuesday night, when the temperature could go down to 30 degrees."
Though it is interesting to pick a day in January in the Northeast and have it appear so warm. The odds are it would have been much colder. Maybe the movie is about the perils of global warming caused by Slusho dumping.
in the new photo, at the bottom left, it looks like the back ground BEHIND the ladies is FAKE!! and ends in the bottom left and the guy running from that area, his shadow stops at the "back-drop"!!!!!
what does this mean?? *shrugs shoulders*, but well....um, there it is.
Yesh FYSB, with the way Chinese manufacturing seems to be poisoning man and pets these days, Global Slushing is not so far-fetched! Altho it does look more like Japanese anime on the site.
Right Chuck, that could be a sea horse! And I've got no clue on the cheese and mit either. But maybe cheese is the secret ingredient that they found? And yes, I read the history, I had to! :o)
I think AIM is going to be involved...per the download page on Slusho. Currently SlushoZoom is logged on to AIM with an away message that reads: Away Message: I'm at school today from 1pm until 10pm pst. I'll be online asap after that.
Take it with a grain of salt as it may just be a game jacker, but who leaves an away message with a pst time?
capcom, I agree with you and I guess we will all have to be patient. What i really think was best of TLE was the incredibly creatie flash sites that the designers had thought up.
JJ Abram's stories at times seem to toy with the audience, he even refers on the bad robot blog, as his fans being his puppets and himself the evil puppeteer. It's truely hard to tell with him how anything will end up.
Xim, I will have to go read that Abrams blog, thanks for the reference to it. I have heard that writers or storytellers often think of their position as being like that, since they control the story and our reactions to the story. Rod Serling used to give that impression also on Twilight Zone, referring to the teller of the tales.
Not to say that Abrams did not mean that, but so far he and his cohorts seem like a nice bunch of folks to me.....so far. ;-) I'd like to believe that anyway.
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet and it is probably just smoke, but there appears to be a face in betwen the lights, looking down the street, in picture #58 of the screen caps. I could just be reading in to things... lol ... But I see it.
Can someone explain what the guy on the left side of the screen in this pic is doing? It looks like he is tackling that person and he's got those "Evil Dead eyes" going on. Any thoughts?
Hey Dennis, awesome job on these caps. If you don't mind, I'm going to put them all in an archived file up for download at my site. I'll give you credit in the readme file I'll include as well as on the site itself.
Has anyone looked into the "woman" theme in the trailer? Lady Liberty, the female-esk sounding roar, the song playing when we first hear the creature, plus the Slusho history being about a woman founding the drink and then dieing at sea...
anybody find it strange that a article on arg's(altarnate reality games) just was released on game informer mag with a nother article on a new game called end of world my suggestion find the sixth letter of every word or every sixth word or every sixth letter of every sixth word on both articles i havent tried it yet but will try soon
also on one of the thumbnails regarding the trailer stills you can see the number 401 and the name of a street but you cant tell name of the street i tried google maps to see if i could spot that building to spot the location but is very hard to tell.
anybody find it strange that a article on arg's(altarnate reality games) just was released on game informer mag with a nother article on a new game called end of world my suggestion find the sixth letter of every word or every sixth word or every sixth letter of every sixth word on both articles i havent tried it yet but will try soon
also on one of the thumbnails regarding the trailer stills you can see the number 401 and the name of a street but you cant tell name of the street i tried google maps to see if i could spot that building to spot the location but is very hard to tell.
hi guys anybody recornized that one girl on the street wear a shirt with'switzerland' on it? any connection to that country? u can see her on one of the picture when they all come down to street
I think Rob knows whats going on. There are too many people saying stuff to him about and someone also says "You should have left town earlyer" "I can't survive without you" "Your the main man" and what would be the significance of throwing him a going away party.
If Rob dosnt know- I'm completely convinced that it's Biblical related to the Three Monsters. Like on the Slusho website theres a horse, a fish, and another animal. From Greek mythology, another flying, fire-breathing creature, with 3 heads - lion, goat, and dragon. LEVIATHAN From the Bible, a giant fire breathing sea creature.
AKM looks like a Pledge paddle, here's the wikipedia article on Alpha Kappa Mu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Kappa_Mu. Nothing really of note except it's an honor society mostly at Historically Black colleges.
Also on the same screen cap, I tried everything but couldn't make out any of the baseball caps, but I did see some red markings on the map on the wall. They seem deliberate, but couldn't make out what they were.
maybe I'm seeing things (or want to see things), but in the setphoto's there is one picture with the red lamp-post and the yellow "to set"-sign. Is it me, or is there a "slusho" on top? And to make things worse. The torch of the statue of liberty also reminds me of a slusho..hehe.
Thanks for these screenshots! Useful stuff. I'm compiling everything I've heard on a new blogspot at http://entrytomysteryst.blogspot.com/ and I'll update it as much as I can.
I was watching a video on youtube and one of the comments said that in the trailer right before you the sol head two people get snatched by the monster
If you look at this screenshot, you can see two men running from the SOL head. If you keep watching the guy on the left, he will jump over the car on the left and tackle the two people on the sidewalk, which you can see here.
It goes by really quick - it's only 2 seconds long. You can see it better in the trailer, if you are looking for it - at 1:35 to 1:37.
I know this may sound like a silly observation but the doesn't the fact that the AKM paddle referencing a primarily African American Honors Society seem fishy to anyone. Google listed this site http://www.hierographics.org/alphakappamu.htm which makes reference to "You are among the precious few human beings upon whom the world must depend for the vision, the insight, and the direction to lead men and women in their quest for fuller self-realization. When translated into its broadest terms, Alpha Kappa Mu National Scholastic Honor Society wants to impress upon you that all correct action derives from sound knowledge, and the gift of knowledge is among the most precious gifts an individual can possess. Knowledge without wisdom, however, is empty and should, therefore, always be avoided." Sounds kinda like what everyone here has been working towards. "Knowledge without wisdom, however, is empty and should therefore, always be avoided." No way this could be a warning about all the fake info out there. Just my observation.
The only thing i don't understad is that continuous reference to number 6... Remember, the slusho (you can't drink just 6) o the website www.1-18-08 you have t wait 6 minutes to hear the roa. I found that strange, any dea about that?
is there anyone that could put these all on a zip/rar file and have it like on fileshare or some kind of download. thx
ReplyDeleteAwesome Dennis, let's get out our magnifying glasses!
ReplyDeleteAlso, Wiki has removed the references to the Ethan Haas game from it's Cloverfield page now too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield
thank you very much dennis my bad for getting ahead of myself
ReplyDeleteI have sent you an e-mail with a face-comparison picture I made with the photo of the two women on 1-18-08.com and a screenshot I took from the HD trailer.
ReplyDeleteThought you might be interested.
at the slusho site, in the history, why is it if you click on the horse and the fish at the bottom, they're "thinking" of an oven-mit and swiss cheese?????
ReplyDeleteChucklez,
ReplyDeleteMaybe the Donkey is from Michigan, and the Fish is from Wisconsin?
capcom said... Awesome Dennis, let's get out our magnifying glasses!
Those are just thumbnails ;) If you click each picture, you will get the full size 1920 x 800.
You're like our main dude, Dennis! What would we do without you!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm looking at the Movie Trailers section of iTunes right now and under the 1-18-08 Trailer it lists Dennis Quaid, Matthew Fox, Forest Whitaker, Sigourney Weaver, and William Hurt. The same people are listed for the movie "Vantage Point" right next to it, so I'm sure it must be an iError.
ReplyDeleteIn the trailer, I am 100% sure that the guy doesn't say "I saw it its alive, it huge"...
ReplyDeletethe guy says:"isaw it Its a LION..."
Think about it.
omar:
ReplyDeleteThis has been discussed in many places and the general consensus is he says "it's alive" simply because "it's a lion" sounds crap and would imply that the movie is going to have a huge CG lion romping over New York, which isn't really JJ Abram's style.
A lot of the "it's a lion" stuff comes from the fact that somebody asks a mere 20 seconds before "what sort of animal makes a sound like that" (or words to that effect).
I will concede however that the more people say "it's a lion" the more the trailer sounds that way, but as soon as people say "it's alive" that's how the trailer sounds i.e. it's all a bit subjective atm.
The Lion does fit in with the Book of Revelations End of the World theory however.
Has anyone thought that maybe it wont ever be revealed?? You realize that JJ still hasn't told us what the monster on the island really is.. its just a cloud of smoke/nanobots/magnetics covering something...
ReplyDeleteDon't you get he just likes to throw us for loops to make money and we buy into it time and time again.
Oh well sadly i'm just like the rest of you and want to know just as badly what it is and what this movie is about.
I'm just going to keep my hopes low after the lost experience last year went so badly half way through.
I noticed a glaring error..
ReplyDeleteIf this is taking place on 1-18-08... has there been some global warming.. i seriously doubt it will be 63 degrees outside at midnight in NY then... Check the TV report
I know Chuck, I meant for looking closely at all the small fuzzy details of the larger images to find more clues. :o)
ReplyDeleteWhen I lived in Poughkeepsie, NY, we often got a couple warm spells per winter. Some Januarys got unusually warm, and everyone was calling it a normal 'January Thaw', whatever that means. They didn't last of course once Feb came around, but they were freakishly warm, it could happen. Not to say that something weird is not going on in the movie tho, of course.
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ReplyDeleteI want to apologize for all my postings, I hadn't quite read up and watched the whole trailer a couple of times yet, it does seem to be alot of hidden things and especially alot of hidden numbers that I am sure will fall into place later or will just lead us into alot of confusion.
ReplyDeleteI do have one thing to say is that everyone should think about the fact of the reoccuring monster theme between lost and this.. and how similar the noises are. JJ may have had some ideas from when he made lost that turned into this and could be derived back to our original speculations from lost.
But I know what you mean Ximfinity, this may not really turn out to be an ARG after all, just some clues to keep interest in the movie up till January.
ReplyDeleteI think that Abrams respects his fans, and it also seemed like the foul-ups with TLE at the end were due to ABC's lack of cooperation and impatience with perhaps not enough ROI from the game in their bottom-line-eyes.
I wouldn't be bothered by the temperature in the faux NYC in the trailer. Here is a quote from the January 6, 2007 issue of the New York Times.
ReplyDelete"Yesterday, with parts of the nation shivering and the Rockies and the Midwest pummeled by another snowstorm, the record for the latest appearance of snow in New York City was broken with little fanfare.
For now, not even a flurry is in the immediate forecast. Indeed, today the temperature might reach 71 degrees, which would be another record. According to the National Weather Service, it will not even come close to freezing until Tuesday night, when the temperature could go down to 30 degrees."
Though it is interesting to pick a day in January in the Northeast and have it appear so warm. The odds are it would have been much colder. Maybe the movie is about the perils of global warming caused by Slusho dumping.
There's a new pic up on 1-18-08. Looks like lots of white smoke, women running with their mouths covered, and the time is 12:48A. :D
ReplyDeleteokay, as far as the history section at slusho!
ReplyDeletei'm thinking that's a "SEA HORSE", not a DONKEY.
now, with that said.....still got nothin' on the OVEN MIT and SWISS CHEESE.
ugh.
in the new photo, at the bottom left, it looks like the back ground BEHIND the ladies is FAKE!! and ends in the bottom left and the guy running from that area, his shadow stops at the "back-drop"!!!!!
ReplyDeletewhat does this mean?? *shrugs shoulders*, but well....um, there it is.
did i just sound like Jeff Goldblum?? ugh!!
Yesh FYSB, with the way Chinese manufacturing seems to be poisoning man and pets these days, Global Slushing is not so far-fetched! Altho it does look more like Japanese anime on the site.
ReplyDeleteRight Chuck, that could be a sea horse! And I've got no clue on the cheese and mit either. But maybe cheese is the secret ingredient that they found? And yes, I read the history, I had to! :o)
it's japanese, btw. spent over a year there.
ReplyDeleteI think AIM is going to be involved...per the download page on Slusho. Currently SlushoZoom is logged on to AIM with an away message that reads:
ReplyDeleteAway Message:
I'm at school today from 1pm until 10pm pst. I'll be online asap after that.
Take it with a grain of salt as it may just be a game jacker, but who leaves an away message with a pst time?
OH, and thanks Chucklez :D:D
ReplyDeleteupdate to slusho site.
ReplyDeletein history, the main logo for "slusho!" doesn't go away and looms over the history area.
nothing comes up on the downloads page anymore either.
just FYI
Dennis, check your e-mail. Although I know I'm not the first to find it, I didn't see a reference to it here.
ReplyDeleteabz3293.com
comments there link to
www.anti-christ.com
Dunno if they're legit, but worth mentioning here.
capcom, I agree with you and I guess we will all have to be patient. What i really think was best of TLE was the incredibly creatie flash sites that the designers had thought up.
ReplyDeleteJJ Abram's stories at times seem to toy with the audience, he even refers on the bad robot blog, as his fans being his puppets and himself the evil puppeteer. It's truely hard to tell with him how anything will end up.
Xim, I will have to go read that Abrams blog, thanks for the reference to it. I have heard that writers or storytellers often think of their position as being like that, since they control the story and our reactions to the story. Rod Serling used to give that impression also on Twilight Zone, referring to the teller of the tales.
ReplyDeleteNot to say that Abrams did not mean that, but so far he and his cohorts seem like a nice bunch of folks to me.....so far. ;-) I'd like to believe that anyway.
chucklez3 said... okay, as far as the history section at slusho! i'm thinking that's a "SEA HORSE", not a DONKEY.
ReplyDeleteIt is definitly a Donkey and a Fish. It says it in the SWF files.
TPTB must have heard our David complaining about the Slusho! music on our podcast today, because they added a "mute" button :)
TheBookPolice said... Dennis, check your e-mail. Although I know I'm not the first to find it, I didn't see a reference to it here. abz3293.com
Fake.
okey dokey.
ReplyDeleteTBP,
ReplyDeleteI haven't had time to read through all of the 136+ pages of comments at Unfiction, but they keep a list of fake sites:
CONFIRMED INGAME/OTHERWISE RELATED
www.01-18-08.com
www.1-18-2008.com
www.slusho.com
CONFIRMED SHILLS/GAME-JACKS/TROLLS/ OTHERWISE UNRELATED:
www.1-18-08.ORG
www.slusho.org
www.abz3293.com/
www.ethanhaaswasright.com
www.tritonenterprises.net/
www.ethanhaaswaswrong.com
www.ethanhaas.org
www.theparasitemovie.com
Hey Loc... ooops ... hey cloves,
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this has been mentioned yet and it is probably just smoke, but there appears to be a face in betwen the lights, looking down the street, in picture #58 of the screen caps. I could just be reading in to things... lol ... But I see it.
Can someone explain what the guy on the left side of the screen in this pic is doing? It looks like he is tackling that person and he's got those "Evil Dead eyes" going on. Any thoughts?
ReplyDeleteHey Dennis, awesome job on these caps. If you don't mind, I'm going to put them all in an archived file up for download at my site. I'll give you credit in the readme file I'll include as well as on the site itself.
ReplyDeleteAwesome job!
Oh, forgot to mention that the website would be http://projectcloverfield.com
ReplyDeleteHas anyone looked into the "woman" theme in the trailer? Lady Liberty, the female-esk sounding roar, the song playing when we first hear the creature, plus the Slusho history being about a woman founding the drink and then dieing at sea...
ReplyDeleteanybody find it strange that a article on arg's(altarnate reality games) just was released on game informer mag with a nother article on a new game called end of world my suggestion find the sixth letter of every word or every sixth word or every sixth letter of every sixth word on both articles i havent tried it yet but will try soon
ReplyDeletealso on one of the thumbnails regarding the trailer stills you can see the number 401 and the name of a street but you cant tell name of the street i tried google maps to see if i could spot that building to spot the location but is very hard to tell.
anybody find it strange that a article on arg's(altarnate reality games) just was released on game informer mag with a nother article on a new game called end of world my suggestion find the sixth letter of every word or every sixth word or every sixth letter of every sixth word on both articles i havent tried it yet but will try soon
ReplyDeletealso on one of the thumbnails regarding the trailer stills you can see the number 401 and the name of a street but you cant tell name of the street i tried google maps to see if i could spot that building to spot the location but is very hard to tell.
hi guys anybody recornized that one girl on the street wear a shirt with'switzerland' on it? any connection to that country? u can see her on one of the picture when they all come down to street
ReplyDeleteI think Rob knows whats going on. There are too many people saying stuff to him about and someone also says "You should have left town earlyer" "I can't survive without you" "Your the main man" and what would be the significance of throwing him a going away party.
ReplyDeleteIf Rob dosnt know- I'm completely convinced that it's Biblical related to the Three Monsters. Like on the Slusho website theres a horse, a fish, and another animal. From Greek mythology, another flying, fire-breathing creature, with 3 heads - lion, goat, and dragon.
LEVIATHAN From the Bible, a giant fire breathing sea creature.
notice that on pic #31 there is a sort of paddle with the letters AKM what it means i have no clue but i havent found any reference to it
ReplyDeleteANIBODY NOTICE HOW IN GAME INFORMER MAGAZINE THERE IS A ARTICLE
ReplyDeleteON ARG'S AND ANOTHER ONE ON THE END OF THE WORLD GAME AND YOU
KNOW HOW THE NUMBER THREE KEEPS COMING UP
AND THE NUMBER SIX WELL WHAT IF EVERY SIXTH WORDE, OR EVERY
THIRD WORD OR EVERY THIRD LETTER OF EVERY SIXTH WORD. ONE OF THE
SCREENCAPS THERE IS THE INITIALS [b]AKM[/b] ALSO ON
AND I HAVENT FOUND ANY REFERENCE TO IT and it has "six" holes
AKM looks like a Pledge paddle, here's the wikipedia article on Alpha Kappa Mu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Kappa_Mu.
ReplyDeleteNothing really of note except it's an honor society mostly at Historically Black colleges.
Also on the same screen cap, I tried everything but couldn't make out any of the baseball caps, but I did see some red markings on the map on the wall. They seem deliberate, but couldn't make out what they were.
ReplyDeletecheck the trailerat 24 its not cereal.............
ReplyDeletemaybe I'm seeing things (or want to see things), but in the setphoto's there is one picture with the red lamp-post and the yellow "to set"-sign. Is it me, or is there a "slusho" on top? And to make things worse. The torch of the statue of liberty also reminds me of a slusho..hehe.
ReplyDeleteThanks for these screenshots! Useful stuff.
ReplyDeleteI'm compiling everything I've heard on a new blogspot at http://entrytomysteryst.blogspot.com/ and I'll update it as much as I can.
eh, kinda pissed. blatant culture misstep with the set. Buddha statues are not part of a Japanese theme. Common mistake, probably nothing important.
ReplyDeleteI was watching a video on youtube and one of the comments said that in the trailer right before you the sol head two people get snatched by the monster
ReplyDeleteThat's not true.
ReplyDeleteIf you look at this screenshot, you can see two men running from the SOL head. If you keep watching the guy on the left, he will jump over the car on the left and tackle the two people on the sidewalk, which you can see here.
It goes by really quick - it's only 2 seconds long. You can see it better in the trailer, if you are looking for it - at 1:35 to 1:37.
oh ok I see what you mean
ReplyDeleteOMG!!! if you watch the trailer, just before the first monster roar you hear a woman say,"THEY LIVED."
ReplyDeleteI couldn't hear it, is in the apartment or on the roof?
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ReplyDeletein the apartment.
ReplyDeleteI know this may sound like a silly observation but the doesn't the fact that the AKM paddle referencing a primarily African American Honors Society seem fishy to anyone. Google listed this site
ReplyDeletehttp://www.hierographics.org/alphakappamu.htm
which makes reference to
"You are among the precious few human beings upon whom the world must depend for the vision, the insight, and the direction to lead men and women in their quest for fuller self-realization. When translated into its broadest terms, Alpha Kappa Mu National Scholastic Honor Society wants to impress upon you that all correct action derives from sound knowledge, and the gift of knowledge is among the most precious gifts an individual can possess. Knowledge without wisdom, however, is empty and should, therefore, always be avoided."
Sounds kinda like what everyone here has been working towards. "Knowledge without wisdom, however, is empty and should therefore, always be avoided." No way this could be a warning about all the fake info out there.
Just my observation.
The only thing i don't understad is that continuous reference to number 6...
ReplyDeleteRemember, the slusho (you can't drink just 6) o the website www.1-18-08 you have t wait 6 minutes to hear the roa. I found that strange, any dea about that?
Jesus Christh! Its a Lion! Get in the Car!
ReplyDeleteFor Shakey, Lurk Moar...
>:3 Rawr