New messages began appearing in email boxes, with one of the following images attached - sonar_1.jpg and sonar_2.jpg. There is no note or message attached.It looks like some kind or sonar image, but of what? Was this the first detection by Tagruato of the monster?
Click here to see the two images overlapped and animated.
Click here to see the "difference" of the two images.
It looks like it is a screen shot of a Tagruato computer, based on the Tagruato wallpaper in the background. The program that appears to be running is titled "Tagruato Son-air Bld.18 Rev 1a", and has various tabs, some marked in Japanese, and shows a date of 12/18/07. The status bar of the first image says "Occ. Det. ANO 0012433. Monitoring...", and the second image says "Occ. Scale. ERR. 163".
* Thanks to Mark, Ryan, Caleb, and Brat
This is the first clue I've actually been around to witness. I'm MulletMan at uF btw.
ReplyDeleteLooks like some sort of spill...
ReplyDeleteJust off-hand, the program looks a bit similar to AutoCAD.
ReplyDeleteDecember 18th is the date where something went wrong with the "event".
ReplyDeleteOops.
BLOOP!
ReplyDeleteI blame TIDOWave for interfering with the delicate balance in which Tagruato kept everything. So much for the radical group's righteous infiltration.
My guess is, too, that it wasn't Tagruato's fault but TIDOwave's fault.
ReplyDeleteTHAT'S what I said in the most recent Podcast!
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ReplyDeleteMy bad. While watching the gif i noticed whatever it is is spread out all around. I have no idea what it could be. Will we need someone versed in sonar to help? And yeah, it seems Dec.18th was the day it happened.
ReplyDeleteHey, can anyone see if the coordinates (down right) leads anywhere? Is it at the Chuai Station or somewhere else??
ReplyDeleteNothing in google earth, though I admit I'm not an ace at the program.
ReplyDeleteI hope this doesn't have anything to do with the Bermuda triangle...
ReplyDeleteDifference between the red channels of the two images:
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hey id like to note btw, that it looks like theres a meter for depth and all around the middle thing is the darkest. I belive that...that Is the Chuai station and that thats the horrible discovory getting up to bit them in the reer =]
ReplyDeleteand excuse me if i pointed out the obvious >.<
sorry for x2 post BUT it also looks like a themomitor and a inter signal? but yea just wondering
ReplyDeleteIt the monster.
ReplyDeleteHey, the coordinates shown at the bottom right are very different in both pics... but the image doesn't seem to move a lot... is that right?
ReplyDeleteThe image doesn't move because the monster retains it's shape, they're only tracking it.
ReplyDeleteif the x and y are coordinates then that means it must have moved a crap load of distance in a short amount of time, faster than whatever was tracking it could move anyways
ReplyDeleteInteresting note: Looking at "Tagruato Son-Air Bld.18 Rev 1a"
ReplyDeleteLed me to look up Revelation 18:1.
The Fall of Babylon.
Read it all here: http://www.apocalipsis.org/rev-18.htm
:D, glad i could help. -Caleb
ReplyDeletecool find zombie, that is a little creepy
ReplyDeleteI'm not a GPS/mapping expert, but a little looking indicated that Google Maps uses WGS84 coordinate systems for Lat/Long data. For systems that use X,Y coordinates like these images, there is a conversion process that needs to take place to get the correct Lat/Long to really show anything in Google maps. I don't have time to dig too much at the moment and math isn't really one of my stronger points! But perhaps someone can take this information and correctly calculate the Lat/Long these images were supposed to originate from.
ReplyDeleteI don't think at all that X, Y coordinates have ANYTHING to do with the real earth coordinates.
ReplyDeleteNo one measures stuff like that in X, Y.
And they are DEFINETELY not tracking the monster around a planet - it's the same place shown on both images.
I think X, Y actually show the place where cursor of the mouse was at the moment when the screenshots were taken (launch your Paint application in Windows and see the status bar while moving the mouse across the canvas - it shows the coordinates of the cursor).
You can see the system axes on the screenshots.
the image does not have to be right side up. im taking it and rotating it to see if I can see somethig different, but im not too sure
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ReplyDeleteDoes anyone think it could be Manhattan?
ReplyDeleteHow are ya'll getting these messages from Whistleblower? Did you email the Tagruato folks?
ReplyDeleteVery cool clue!
now that i think about it, in Godzilla 1998, there was a very similar sonar view of godzilla. It had the same long shape and parts that seem to be seperate. I am trying to find what a whale looks like on sonar but cant find it
ReplyDeleteGuys I think this is SON AIR... not SONAR... Did Tagruato not send a satellite for some reason... there you go! I think the images are gonna layer on top of eachother going deeper and deeper to make some image of the monster...
ReplyDeleteThe translation of Japanese tabs:
ReplyDeleteファイル（Ｆ） File
編集 Edit
STAT
VIEWER
言語 Language
Standard software menu.
Guys I think this is SON AIR... not SONAR... Did Tagruato not send a satellite for some reason... there you go! I think the images are gonna layer on top of eachother going deeper and deeper to make some image of the monster...
ReplyDeleteSON AIR... That's French. It translates to "His Air" or "It's Air".
What about TIDOWave? Le Bandit Vert, is it not? He's French too.
Hey guys i think joe is right and it is son air which is weird.
ReplyDeleteActually, some systems do use X,Y coordinates. This is based on a grid system of the earth like UTM. There's copious amounts of data on this on Google.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=lat+lon+x+y+coordinates&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
I'd be surprised if they put coordinates into the image that they fed to the ARG crowd that meant absolutely nothing. They likely correspond to Chuai station or somewhere between there and NYC.
Going back to the French thing for a second- add an "E" to Son Air and it's Son Aire, which means Its Area. But to what does the area belong?
ReplyDeleteDUN DUN DUUUUUUUN
What is the symbol near the bottom right that looks like a cross with a square and an arrow pointing down?
ReplyDeleteIt's A Spill......
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ReplyDeleteDeep.
ReplyDeleteSea.
Nectar.
Igoduki said: Its the monster
ReplyDeleteI say: Hell yes
OMG NECTAR!
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ReplyDeleteDifference between the red channels of the two images:
http://i16.tinypic.com/6z6ndpt.gif
Looks like a monkey holding a flag...
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ReplyDeletezepperdude is right
ReplyDeletewe need to know what the symbols onn the bottom-right mean. Especially the one that CHANGES its value between images.
That could be actually Height of the measurements. And if that's it, joe was right. it could be the same thing at the same time but on different levels - pictures taken by Hatsui.
Maybe the coordinates mean something but for some reason i'm absolutely sure that the 'thing' does not move between 2 pictures.
Maybe they show the point on the picture (in its system of coordinates) where the maximum amount of RED is? :)
hmmm..
ReplyDeleteIt's the monster. It's stuck under something, it looks like.. like it's entire lower half is covered. look at the pic that is just black, with the "sonar" image showing.. You can see the right protrusion looks like a clawed hand.. hold on, i'll try to upload it..
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I might be grasping at straws, but I think this is good ol' Chuai Monster, folks. Keep in mind it's in the mid atlantic ridge, it could be caught under the edge of a tectonic plate.. that's just my hypothesis.
I know what it is, its oil deposits under the ocean floor. Duh its so obvious now.
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ReplyDeletethis may not be very useful, but take a look at this picture:
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albums/o76/yomamofo/c1sc7.jpg
it might just be a piece of rubble or dust, but the top, it looks like part of the monster, maybe a tail?
off shore oil companies use sonar in order to locate oil deposits on the sea bed. so these images could very possibly be of the deep sea nectar.
ReplyDeletealso, after i googled one of the coordinates on one of the images and it gave a location in new york. 119-16 135th ave, south ozone park, ny. its not that far from where rob's apartment is. could this be where beth lives and they need to go to rescue her?
Has everyone forgotten that there's gonna be smaller monsters? It's the big one and the small ones, hence why it looks spread out.
ReplyDeleteOr... not.
SON AIR... That's French. It translates to "His Air" or "It's Air".
ReplyDeleteHAWK: The air caught on fire
and that could be detecting heat so maybe the dark spots are fire?
does anyone think this could possibly be the tagruato oil tanker that was headed towards new york?
ReplyDeleteafter seeing the latest tv spot i believe this SON AIR has something to do with the air.
ReplyDeletelike Randy said:
Hawk: "The air caught on fire"
I think its the Chuai Station, when i sent him the E-mail i asked about the Chuai Station and thats when he sent me Sonar_01.png so IT IS SONAR just to be completely clear.
ReplyDeleteWow. Not since the DaVinci Code have so many unrelated and relatively unimportant ideas been sewn together so enthusiastically.
ReplyDeleteSon-air is probably just the fictitious name of the fictitious software the fictitious Tagruato Corporation uses at its fictitious drilling stations. It's not French. It's not Japanese. Just a make-believe trademark for computer software, of which they currently use Revision 1a of Build 18. Hawk's dialog in C#7 concerning the air on fire is just him freaking out, because he's justifiably terrified of what he has just witnessed (most likely a violent military engagement of the monster that didn't go too well).
It's a blob on a sonar screen. It could be anything. Solving what it should be is not the point, it's just another piece of the background story to suggest that "something" is out there, and to ramp up the anticipation.
DO APOLOGIZE IF MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT HOW IS THE INCORPORATION OF THE HAND HELD FORMAT SUPPOSE TO SUSTAIN A NIGHTS WORTH OF MATERIAL WITH THE LIMITED MEMORY SPACE(IF DIGITAL)AND WHAT ABOUT BATTERY LIFE?
ReplyDeleteWHOS OPERATING? WILL THE CHARACTERS ALTERNATE AND CAPTURE ALL THE PIVOTAL MATERIAL?IM STARTING TO GET SKEPTICAL.THE HANDHELD QUALITY PROVIDES THE FILMMAKERS THE BENEFIT OF DECEPTION TO THE EXPENCE OF THE VIEWERS.THE OPERATOR OF THE CAM IS A HELL OF A DP.
Adam, the fun of this viral marketing thing isn't to assume that everything isn't as it is, the fun is trying to figure out what actually is. So I guess we could call it a monster and wait for Cloverfield to hit the theatres.... But we could also try to piece together as much as possible before 1-18-08.
ReplyDeleteReading back on what I just wrote, it makes no sense whatsoever. But the point stands!
Agreed!
ReplyDeleteI'll be there on Jan. 18th wearing my Slusho! hat. I'd bring along a TIDOWave survival kit too, but sadly no one seems to have put any energy into solving that puzzle they gave us several weeks ago. If the goal is to piece together as much as possible, I'm surprised that huge clue has gone mostly ignored.
Ok im really exicted now, I might just be making to much out of this but after seeing these two pictures and reading the post above, I think that we might of seen the monster already.
ReplyDeleteIgoduki showed this picture of the sonar and at fist i was like, no hes justs think to hard
http://i15.tinypic.com/8brupma.gif
But then when I relooked at this picture from the trailer
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o76/yomamofo/c1sc7.jpg
It looks like thats the monsters head and arms and its moving in the left direction (of your computer screen). Now im in a rush so I can check out the trailer but it looks like a head and claws to me. Now Im probably just tired and thinking crazy but hey if im right, you heard it here first.
Ok im really exicted now, I might just be making to much out of this but after seeing these two pictures and reading the post above, I think that we might of seen the monster already.
ReplyDeleteIgoduki showed this picture of the sonar and at fist i was like, no hes justs think to hard
http://i15.tinypic.com/8brupma.gif
But then when I relooked at this picture from the trailer
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o76/yomamofo/c1sc7.jpg
It looks like thats the monsters head and arms and its moving in the left direction (of your computer screen). Now im in a rush so I can check out the trailer but it looks like a head and claws to me. Now Im probably just tired and thinking crazy but hey if im right, you heard it here first.
Hey Rosario, it's actually moving towards the right side of your computer screen, not the left! Check this gif file animation I found of the same thing you found, but its moving to the left, you can see its leg lift up to keep walking forward! This clip is awesome, it almost looks like a hermit crab!
ReplyDeletehttp://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee70/Geoff_Owen/1195678625708-1.gif
I wouldn't click on the link unless you want to see part of the monster although its hard to make out.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee70/Geoff_Owen/
ReplyDeleteJust in case it didn't work above!
It will take you to the photobucket album and its the first moving picture, there is no password, check it out!
HOLY CRAP!!!!! That's great..wow
ReplyDeleteIf we assume that it's the monster on the sonar screenshots, well then what...? is it gonna wander around the ocean for the next 18 days til it finally finds itself in new york? i think during 18 days it would have been noticed not only by tagruato sonars but all other sonars in the world :)
ReplyDeletei think that still could be nectar. some cute little turtle would drink too much (more than 12 big cups) and become a huge (whale) monstrous tutrle
guys/girls
ReplyDeletedon't forget that IF this is something around the Chuai station, then it can't be oil
TheWhistleBlower wrote that Tagruato knew there was no oil in the place where it was built - it had some other purpose
I know most of us have already written it off, but given the widget and the new commercials popping up, I really think the capsized tanker plays a bigger role than we're acknowledging. The theory that it was transporting the monster could hold some weight. Those beasts are enormous; they're quite literally floating cities. A tanker could conceivably carry a sedated creature of the size alluded to in the trailers.
ReplyDeleteIt's all hearsay at this point, of course. But as long as we're giving all the other theories this much thought...
i never considered it blurboy. but that sounds alright i guess. but wouldn't the monster be too big for an oil tanker? its as tall as the empire state building
ReplyDeletewhat if....it started out small....and then it grew, really fast....causing the tanker to exploed...and the whole time...the monster just keeps growing...until its the size we see......
ReplyDeleteThat probably makes sense.... The mutagen in the nectar just continues nonstop, which is why Marlena is expanding....
ReplyDeletei dont think anyone new about the monster before the attack.
ReplyDeletethe saying "something has found us" wouldnt apply then, cause if you find something doesnt it find you to. Expecially if your transporting it on a tanker.
ok...but who is the 'us' that the tagline indicates? Humans? US Citizens? Who I Ask! Who! haha
ReplyDeletei bet its the loch ness monster =D
ReplyDeleteNow, i wish people would just stop exploiting 'french' here.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, Son Air does not mean "It's Air" in french.
Second, it may mean 'his air', 'her air' or 'its air' - any of those.
And finally, 'son' means 'sound' in french and THAT is why it's in the 'sonar' word.
Too many forced arguments for no reason.
Is it weird that it looks like the same sonar img near the beginning of the American Godzilla movie where Godzilla attacks the Japanese ship???
ReplyDeleteWhoops, sorry. Didn't mean to put in an apostraphe when I wrote "its"....
ReplyDeleteAnd "son" has a duel meaning.
1. A masculan or impersonal determinant.
2. Sound.
"Air" means:
1. Air.
2. Area (aire).
And we can't overlook French translations. After all, the leader of TIDOWave is French. "Le Bandit Vert".
Son is masculan for masculan nouns. 'Air' is a masculan noun that is why we use 'son' there, but it may also mean 'her air'. :)
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking about your version but there's just too many strains. Do u think that the leader of TIDOwave has something to do with Tagruato's software? :)
On the other hand, i, myself, don't have any fresh versions at all %))) so yours is better than mine.
ReplyDeleteAn update on TIDOwave's site!!!
ReplyDeletewell, the fact the monster is obviously bipedal kind of knocks out the theory it's a whale...doesn't it? Perhaps Tarugato and Tidowave have actually been experimenting on creatures, people, or everything with nectar. I believe the sonar might be the remnants of the station, or maybe something near the station.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't this sonar image actually represent a sound?
ReplyDeleteI know from having read The Hunt For Red October that there are two types of sonar. Active sonar uses an emitted sound wave to record what bounces off an object, as far as I know actually giving you a rough image of an object.
Passive sonar essentially just listens and then visually displays those sounds for the operator to examine. Can anybody determine if those images could be sound waves?
I suspect that it probably is an active sonar given that the bottom of both pictures has a tab that says "PNG" which could mean ping, or the act of sending out a sound wave to record its reflections. But then that would have to mean that whatever recorded that image would have to be relatively close to, and within line of sight of the object.
Sorry organicgrower, PNG is just an image file format like JPEG or TIFF.
ReplyDeleteAnd AFAIK, passive sonar is more like what you'd see in U571...no visual, just an audio station that allows examination of sound and it's point of origin. It's been used before to actually detect deep sea sounds that cryptozoologists hypothesize are actual Benthic behemoths.
Active sonar is essentially digitized echolocation.
When you look closely, it's actually an image of Manhattan
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